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Can a Firebird database be hosted on a hosting site?
d***@yahoo.com
2014-01-04 18:22:53 UTC
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Hello to all,


I would like to host my firebird database on a provider, but don't have an idea on where to start. We currently have a firebird database in which is connected via lan. As our company grows, so its needs. We plan to expand on another branch which will be located on a different site, and we plan to have a website so that we can access our database from one branch to another. I tried searching for providers which can host my database, but failed to find one. I was also thinking of hosting it on our own server but don't know where to start also.


Thank you very much.
W O
2014-01-04 18:41:44 UTC
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We had used www.inspirohost.com the last year with good results.

Greetings.

Walter.
Post by d***@yahoo.com
Hello to all,
I would like to host my firebird database on a provider, but don't have an
idea on where to start. We currently have a firebird database in which is
connected via lan. As our company grows, so its needs. We plan to expand on
another branch which will be located on a different site, and we plan to
have a website so that we can access our database from one branch to
another. I tried searching for providers which can host my database, but
failed to find one. I was also thinking of hosting it on our own server but
don't know where to start also.
Thank you very much.
cedriz monteagudo
2014-01-04 20:54:23 UTC
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Thanks to all those replied. I was just wondering what interface are you using when accessing data from a web host? We are currently running a interface built on delphi 7 with zeos as its component. Will it work?

Thanks



On Sunday, January 5, 2014 2:41 AM, W O <***@gmail.com> wrote:

 
We had used www.inspirohost.com the last year with good results.

Greetings.

Walter.
Post by d***@yahoo.com
 
Hello to all,
I would like to host my firebird database on a provider, but don't have an idea on where to start. We currently have a firebird database in which is connected via lan. As our company grows, so its needs. We plan to expand on another branch which will be located on a different site, and we plan to have a website so that we can access our database from one branch to another. I tried searching for providers which can host my database, but failed to find one. I was also thinking of hosting it on our own server but don't know where to start also.
Thank you very much.
W O
2014-01-04 22:07:46 UTC
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Yes, if you can have access to a local database then you can have access to
a remote database.

Just write the connection string. In the case of inspirohost they give you
an user name, a password and that user have the RDB$ADMIN role.

Greetings.

Walter.
Post by cedriz monteagudo
Thanks to all those replied. I was just wondering what interface are you
using when accessing data from a web host? We are currently running a
interface built on delphi 7 with zeos as its component. Will it work?
Thanks
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 2:41 AM, W O <
We had used www.inspirohost.com the last year with good results.
Greetings.
Walter.
Hello to all,
I would like to host my firebird database on a provider, but don't have an
idea on where to start. We currently have a firebird database in which is
connected via lan. As our company grows, so its needs. We plan to expand on
another branch which will be located on a different site, and we plan to
have a website so that we can access our database from one branch to
another. I tried searching for providers which can host my database, but
failed to find one. I was also thinking of hosting it on our own server but
don't know where to start also.
Thank you very much.
Roberto
2014-01-06 10:26:17 UTC
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Cedriz,

Since you know the data for to configurate your DB connection, your application must connect this way. At my company, at Brazil as you, we have Delphi application running this way. We use Delphi 2007, but the compiler version itself has to have nothing to avoid you to connect this way.

Roberto Camargo.


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Thanks to all those replied. I was just wondering what interface are you using when accessing data from a web host? We are currently running a interface built on delphi 7 with zeos as its component. Will it work?

Thanks



On Sunday, January 5, 2014 2:41 AM, W O <***@gmail.com> wrote:

 
We had used www.inspirohost.com the last year with good results.

Greetings.

Walter.
Post by d***@yahoo.com
 
Hello to all,
I would like to host my firebird database on a provider, but don't have an idea on where to start. We currently have a firebird database in which is connected via lan. As our company grows, so its needs. We plan to expand on another branch which will be located on a different site, and we plan to have a website so that we can access our database from one branch to another. I tried searching for providers which can host my database, but failed to find one. I was also thinking of hosting it on our own server but don't know where to start also.
Thank you very much.
Alexey Kovyazin
2014-01-04 20:27:32 UTC
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Hi,

Rent VPS or dedicated server and install there all you need (including
Firebird).

Regards,
Alexey Kovyazin
IBSurgeon
Post by d***@yahoo.com
Hello to all,
I would like to host my firebird database on a provider, but don't
have an idea on where to start. We currently have a firebird database
in which is connected via lan. As our company grows, so its needs. We
plan to expand on another branch which will be located on a different
site, and we plan to have a website so that we can access our database
from one branch to another. I tried searching for providers which can
host my database, but failed to find one. I was also thinking of
hosting it on our own server but don't know where to start also.
Thank you very much.
Mark Rotteveel
2014-01-05 11:30:10 UTC
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Post by d***@yahoo.com
I would like to host my firebird database on a provider, but don't have
an idea on where to start. We currently have a firebird database in
which is connected via lan. As our company grows, so its needs. We plan
to expand on another branch which will be located on a different site,
and we plan to have a website so that we can access our database from
one branch to another. I tried searching for providers which can host my
database, but failed to find one. I was also thinking of hosting it on
our own server but don't know where to start also.
You are not very explicit about how you need to access the database: do
you need access to the database directly or only through the web
application. Do you currently already have such a web application, or
would it need to be developed first?

You should consider to investigate virtualizing the LAN (using VPN) for
the branches, so that the branches share the same - virtual - LAN, this
virtual LAN can extend to server hosted in a datacenter elsewhere(!).

Hosting on a publicly accessible host comes with a set of security
considerations that you don't have if the application (and database) are
hosted internally inside your LAN.

Mark
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cedriz monteagudo
2014-01-05 13:31:21 UTC
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Hello Mark,

Thank you for the reply. We are currently using a application developed on Delphi. Now as the company grows, we are thinking of hosting the database so that we can access it from branch to branch. However we are not familiar with this setup, as I have asked if ever we hosted the database will we still able to use our current application or should we resort to a web based one. And also, about VPNs, we do not have an idea about that. What runs on our head at the moment is that we host the database and connect through it using our application (like we did on lan) and do the same on other branches. Also do we still need to use VPN if ever we host the database somewhere else?

Thanks,



On Sunday, January 5, 2014 7:30 PM, Mark Rotteveel <***@lawinegevaar.nl> wrote:

 
Post by d***@yahoo.com
I would like to host my firebird database on a provider, but don't have
an idea on where to start. We currently have a firebird database in
which is connected via lan. As our company grows, so its needs. We plan
to expand on another branch which will be located on a different site,
and we plan to have a website so that we can access our database from
one branch to another. I tried searching for providers which can host my
database, but failed to find one. I was also thinking of hosting it on
our own server but don't know where to start also.
You are not very explicit about how you need to access the database: do
you need access to the database directly or only through the web
application. Do you currently already have such a web application, or
would it need to be developed first?

You should consider to investigate virtualizing the LAN (using VPN) for
the branches, so that the branches share the same - virtual - LAN, this
virtual LAN can extend to server hosted in a datacenter elsewhere(!).

Hosting on a publicly accessible host comes with a set of security
considerations that you don't have if the application (and database) are
hosted internally inside your LAN.

Mark
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Mark Rotteveel
2014-01-05 14:39:26 UTC
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Post by cedriz monteagudo
Thank you for the reply. We are currently using a application developed
on Delphi. Now as the company grows, we are thinking of hosting the
database so that we can access it from branch to branch. However we are
not familiar with this setup, as I have asked if ever we hosted the
database will we still able to use our current application or should we
resort to a web based one. And also, about VPNs, we do not have an idea
about that. What runs on our head at the moment is that we host the
database and connect through it using our application (like we did on
lan) and do the same on other branches. Also do we still need to use VPN
if ever we host the database somewhere else?
To be able to access it from delphi, you would need to host it publicly
accessible. Publicly hosting your database means that the Firebird
server is exposed to the internet. That is a big security risk: with 8
characters the password strength of Firebird isn't that great, the
protocol is not encrypted in versions before 3.0, and you run the risk
of denial of service attacks. Of course it is technically possible, but
I wouldn't do this. Now if you are running a web application, then the
database isn't directly exposed. And as long as the web application is
well-written and properly secured the risk of data-theft etc is a lot
smaller.

Using a virtual lan that ties the branches (and maybe a database server
in a datacenter) together would be more secure, because it is not
externally accessible. However I am not an operations guy, so I can't
provide information on how you would implement this.

Mark
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Iwan Cahyadi Sugeng
2014-01-05 14:43:07 UTC
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Post by cedriz monteagudo
Hello Mark,
Thank you for the reply. We are currently using a application developed on
Delphi. Now as the company grows, we are thinking of hosting the database
so that we can access it from branch to branch. However we are not familiar
with this setup, as I have asked if ever we hosted the database will we
still able to use our current application or should we resort to a web
based one. And also, about VPNs, we do not have an idea about that. What
runs on our head at the moment is that we host the database and connect
through it using our application (like we did on lan) and do the same on
other branches. Also do we still need to use VPN if ever we host the
database somewhere else?
Thanks,
Using VPN, you put your database in a server that will be accessible on any
computer connected via VPN. it will have access to your database as if it
is in your LAN. So i would suggest you to consider using VPN instead
hosting it on web hosting for security and privacy reason. Put your
database server on a LAN that have access the database mostly, usually it
is on the head office.

You should consider upgrade it to the latest delphi XE5 to take the
advantage of the latest Datasnap technology that will help you more on
solving your multiple distance branch location problem. With datasnap, you
will only need to have one server to access the database, all other client
will communicating with this server application. In short, it is like a web
server in delphi. You can access them using TCP or HTTP/HTTPS, if you are
using TCP, you need VPN for security, otherwise you can use HTTPS for more
secure protocol.
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